[UtahPali]

Seems like for a short time the Palisade had wireless CarPlay, and they just broke it. When I bought my 2025 2 weeks ago, there was CarPlay on the menu and it connected wirelessly. About a week ago Hyundai pushed an OTA update that now broke it again. WTF??

 

[Eric2203]

Seems like for a short time the Palisade had wireless CarPlay, and they just broke it. When I bought my 2025 2 weeks ago, there was CarPlay on the menu and it connected wirelessly. About a week ago Hyundai pushed an OTA update that now broke it again. WTF??

No Palisade has ever had wireless CarPlay as of model year 2025, except for the 2021 to 2022 models without navigation

 

[Ralph6410]

No Palisade has ever had wireless CarPlay as of model year 2025, except for the 2021 to 2022 models without navigation

Never could figure the advantage of "navigation". With CarPlay you have your choice of navigation... that is current and free. My 2022 came without navigation, so I got wireless CarPlay. My phone stays in my pocket and I can ask SIRI to find (and show) me any address or location I desire.

 

[Eric2203]

Never could figure the advantage of "navigation". With CarPlay you have your choice of navigation... that is current and free. My 2022 came without navigation, so I got wireless CarPlay. My phone stays in my pocket and I can ask SIRI to find (and show) me any address or location I desire.

Advantages are: integration with the Heads-Up-Display and cluster, not draining the phone battery (yes, there is a wireless charger, but that can't always keep up with the power demand of navigating with a phone - and if you have to plug the phone in, then it defeats the purpose of having it wirelessly), potential communication issues between phone and car (don't know if that's a problem for you - maybe not), and I find that the phone is always a touch behind real-time, where the built-in nav seems to update a tad quicker - not a dealbreaker, but can be enough to make you miss a turn in a busy city area. Maybe newer phones are faster and therefore better at this.

One more thing that most people don't know about is that the phone can use the GPS receiver of the car when navigating (that's why on cars with nav, you can only set a destination on the built-nav or a phone app via CarPlay/Android Auto, not both at the same time. Only one at a time can use the receiver). But on your car without navigation, you don't have a GPS receiver in the car, so the phone is doing all the work. Of course, the flip side is that cars with a GPS also have built-in nav, which means you don't have to use the phone. Maybe they need to build a version with a GPS receiver and no built-in nav, just to help with phone navigation...

Advantages of the phone are of course, more up-to-date data (not perfect, contrary to what some people think), but for some people, that will never be an issue - depends where you live and where you go. Real-time traffic is no longer a sole benefit of the phone since BlueLink also does that (and re-routes you in the built-in nav). And you can have Waze run in the background in passive mode (no destination set) when using the built-in nav and still be notified about cops.

Don't get me wrong, navigating by phone does work. Not trying to push one or the other. There are pros and cons to both.

 

[Ralph6410]

Advantages are: integration with the Heads-Up-Display and cluster, not draining the phone battery (yes, there is a wireless charger, but that can't always keep up with the power demand of navigating with a phone - and if you have to plug the phone in, then it defeats the purpose of having it wirelessly), potential communication issues between phone and car (don't know if that's a problem for you - maybe not), and I find that the phone is always a touch behind real-time, where the built-in nav seems to update a tad quicker - not a dealbreaker, but can be enough to make you miss a turn in a busy city area. Maybe newer phones are faster and therefore better at this.

One more thing that most people don't know about is that the phone can use the GPS receiver of the car when navigating (that's why on cars with nav, you can only set a destination on the built-nav or a phone app via CarPlay/Android Auto, not both at the same time. Only one at a time can use the receiver). But on your car without navigation, you don't have a GPS receiver in the car, so the phone is doing all the work. Of course, the flip side is that cars with a GPS also have built-in nav, which means you don't have to use the phone. Maybe they need to build a version with a GPS receiver and no built-in nav, just to help with phone navigation...

Advantages of the phone are of course, more up-to-date data (not perfect, contrary to what some people think), but for some people, that will never be an issue - depends where you live and where you go. Real-time traffic is no longer a sole benefit of the phone since BlueLink also does that (and re-routes you in the built-in nav). And you can have Waze run in the background in passive mode (no destination set) when using the built-in nav and still be notified about cops.

Don't get me wrong, navigating by phone does work. Not trying to push one or the other. There are pros and cons to both.

I have not kept up with all the trim levels and features, do all vehicles with built in navigation have the HUD? I don't find the drain on my iPhone battery a problem and mostly use a Garmin with the app to show traffic anyway.

 

[Eric2203]

I have not kept up with all the trim levels and features, do all vehicles with built in navigation have the HUD? I don't find the drain on my iPhone battery a problem and mostly use a Garmin with the app to show traffic anyway.

No, I think the HUD is only on the higher trims.

 

[BSBTX_Palisade]

No, I think the HUD is only on the higher trims.

For 2025 model year HUD is available on Limited and Calligraphy

 

[Eric2203]

For 2025 model year HUD is available on Limited and Calligraphy

Yeah, the higher trims…

 

[TheRealAlexDC]

Advantages are: integration with the Heads-Up-Display and cluster, not draining the phone battery (yes, there is a wireless charger, but that can't always keep up with the power demand of navigating with a phone - and if you have to plug the phone in, then it defeats the purpose of having it wirelessly), potential communication issues between phone and car (don't know if that's a problem for you - maybe not), and I find that the phone is always a touch behind real-time, where the built-in nav seems to update a tad quicker - not a dealbreaker, but can be enough to make you miss a turn in a busy city area. Maybe newer phones are faster and therefore better at this.

One more thing that most people don't know about is that the phone can use the GPS receiver of the car when navigating (that's why on cars with nav, you can only set a destination on the built-nav or a phone app via CarPlay/Android Auto, not both at the same time. Only one at a time can use the receiver). But on your car without navigation, you don't have a GPS receiver in the car, so the phone is doing all the work. Of course, the flip side is that cars with a GPS also have built-in nav, which means you don't have to use the phone. Maybe they need to build a version with a GPS receiver and no built-in nav, just to help with phone navigation...

Advantages of the phone are of course, more up-to-date data (not perfect, contrary to what some people think), but for some people, that will never be an issue - depends where you live and where you go. Real-time traffic is no longer a sole benefit of the phone since BlueLink also does that (and re-routes you in the built-in nav). And you can have Waze run in the background in passive mode (no destination set) when using the built-in nav and still be notified about cops.

Don't get me wrong, navigating by phone does work. Not trying to push one or the other. There are pros and cons to both.

a couple of comments. Phone delay is mainly due to the Bluetooth latency, when is connected via cable, there is no latency and from my experience phone navigation is much smoother and more responsive than any UI from any car manufacturer (with the exception of some manufacturers installing Google maps on newer models)

I’m not sure about what you said about the vehicle GPS receiver. I have actually set a destination on my phone and a different destination on the Pali’s native navigation. They both work simultaneously without issues.

I actually like the UI for the Palisade, but the navigation option from CarPlay is so smooth that I always end up using CarPlay.

oh and if you value your mobile phone’s battery, do not use the wireless charger, it does not dissipate heat and only after a few minutes the phone will get very hot, damaging its battery. I think newer models have a fan or something under the wireless charger but not on my 2024 SEL Premium. I turned off the wireless charging capabilities the moment I realized this was happening.

 

[Eric2203]

a couple of comments. Phone delay is mainly due to the Bluetooth latency, when is connected via cable, there is no latency and from my experience phone navigation is much smoother and more responsive than any UI from any car manufacturer (with the exception of some manufacturers installing Google maps on newer models)

No, I'm not talking about Bluetooth here, but CarPlay specifically. I've always found the phone to be a little behind real time, and behind the built-in nav. That has gotten better on newer phones, admittedly.

I’m not sure about what you said about the vehicle GPS receiver. I have actually set a destination on my phone and a different destination on the Pali’s native navigation. They both work simultaneously without issues.

CarPlay is designed to use the car's GPS when using the phone to navigate. It does not use the phone's internal GPS. This is by design: it improves the performance of the phone when you're using it to navigate. You can read Apple Developer documents for more details. As a side-note, for older Palisades that have no built-in nav, but do have CarPlay (wireless or otherwise), then it has to rely on the phone, obviously.

Unless Hyundai changed that on newer versions of their software for the infotainment center (I haven't tried this in a long time), you cannot set a destination on the built-in nav and on the phone when using CarPlay to navigate. It's one or the other. Setting on the phone cancels the nav on the built-in nav, and setting one in the built-in systems cancels the nav on the phone. To be clear, you have to set a destination to see this: just having Waze running on the phone with no destination set will not cancel the nav in the built-in system.

Maybe I'll try that again (if I remember), but that was definitely how it worked early on.

I actually like the UI for the Palisade, but the navigation option from CarPlay is so smooth that I always end up using CarPlay.

I like the HUD and cluster integration of the built-in nav. And with Blue Link, it's been as good with rerouting because of traffic as Waze or Google Maps. I ignored it at my expense a couple times, and I should have trusted it.

To be fair, I think it's technically possible for Hyundai to do the same with CarPlay and have it show in the HUD/cluster. I wish they would implement that as well.

I don't have anything against nav using CarPlay. It definitely works well and smoothly as well.

oh and if you value your mobile phone’s battery, do not use the wireless charger, it does not dissipate heat and only after a few minutes the phone will get very hot, damaging its battery. I think newer models have a fan or something under the wireless charger but not on my 2024 SEL Premium. I turned off the wireless charging capabilities the moment I realized this was happening.

Are you sure there's no fan under your 2024? I think there is, but that it's inadequate.

Either way, newer phones will stop charging wirelessly if they get too hot. That wasn't always the case: I had an iPhone X, which was the first time Apple introduced wireless charging and the phone would die from overheating on a wireless charger. Thankfully, they addressed that on newer models...