[Legit Owner]

2020 Palisade owner here.

I didn't know this till now at 130.000km that I'm losing a substantial amount of oil. Between oil changes every 6000km, after each 1000km I'm losing about a liter and after top up, after another 1000-2000km I'm down another 1.5 liter.

In total between oil changes I need to add roughly 3.5L of oil, that is beyond expectable.
I would never purchase Hyundai again and dealers are no help other then milking you for every dollar.

 

[IHateMyPalisade]

I am completely sympathetic to those owners experiencing high oil consumption, but with 24,000 miles I’ve noticed little to no oil consumption issues. Based on reports from others I became super paranoid and made an effort to check oil levels every two weeks.

In early August of this year I noticed a loss of just under 1/2 a quart of oil was consumed nearly 4,000 miles since the previous oil change. This was consistent with all my previous cars (Saturn, Altima, & LeSebre) and was no cause for concern.

Had my oil changed in late August and have driven another 4,500 miles (November 30th) and have noticed no (zero) oil consumption. Most of my driving is highway and short trips (<5 miles) are exceptionally rare.

So… here’s the question. What separates Palisade owners with 2020 (first yr) models with 50K+ miles with no oil consumption vs. others with under 10K miles burning a quart or more per 1K miles?

1.). Year of engine assembly?
2.). Driving frequency and style (short trip driving accelerate sludge due to lack of warmup).
3.). Oil change frequency (manual states every 7,500 miles but many owners change every 5k or sooner)?
4.). Bad luck? Even a few 2020 Toyota and Honda owners are reporting high oil consumption issues.

1 I have a 2020 it is using about a quart a week.
2 we have a very mixed driving style. Some days my wife will only take the kids to school in the morning. Others she will drive for over an hour including the highway.
3 oil changed everytime the light comes on.
4 Maybe? we have about 88k miles. It seems to me that this is the same hyundai/kia has always been. They make their cars look nice but same quality.

I will also say we have been the to the dealer about 4 times for other much smaller issues and every time we are given some BS excuse as to why the thing isn't covered. I used to work at a GM dealer and have never seen such nickel and diming of items under warranty. Never will buy either Hyundai or Kia again.

 

[R!CK]

I bought my 2020 palisade used. It had 76k on it so I'm assuming it was used for a lot of highway. I needed to get something, as my car was on its last wheel. First week I had it, the dealership had to change the valve cover gasket. Leaked a bunch of oil. Ok, problem solved. But, ever since then, it has been burning 2 quarts of oil for every thousand miles. Hyundai said because I'm not the original owner that nothing can be done. ....."

Your symptoms, especially a blown out valve cover gasket or oil leaks in general on a late model car, point to a defective PCV valve or filter if there is one. Changing out the PCV valve is a cheap test on oil consumption problems.

 

[ShelbyGuy]

I just installed a J&L oil separator on our 2020 with 52,000 miles and it’s surprising how much it catches.

 

[chovaz]

I'm having similar problems on a 2020 Palisade Limited and just starting to dig into it.

Question - how is everyone measuring their oil burn? Do you actually have to drain it out and measure it? Like someone above said 1qt after 400 miles. Others have mentioned different figures but seems they checked or estimated themselves.

Can you tell at all by the dipstick (I doubt it since there's no L/QT markers on it) or do you actually have to drain it all out and measure it?

 

[Mr. P]

Of course you can tell the oil level by the dipstick as there are marks on the dipstick. Normally there are two small holes with checkered marks between them. The top hole is full, the bottom hole is a quart low and the checkered area in between is the safe zone. If the oil doesn't register on the stick then you are at least two quarts low and should have been monitoring the level more often.

 

[chovaz]

Of course you can tell the oil level by the dipstick as there are marks on the dipstick. Normally there are two small holes with checkered marks between them. The top hole is full, the bottom hole is a quart low and the checkered area in between is the safe zone. If the oil doesn't register on the stick then you are at least two quarts low and should have been monitoring the level more often.

Yeah but you need to know pretty precisely.

How many qts is “low”? How do I know exactly how many qts have been used if it’s in the checkered area? Doesn’t seem like a warranty company would accept “it was like 2/3 down through the checkered area” as a proper measurement

 

[Larry48]

If at the end of 5K to 7K change interval you are only down to the checkered area this is less than 1 qt per oil change of usage. Any warranty company is going to laugh at you.

 

[chovaz]

If at the end of 5K to 7K change interval you are only down to the checkered area this is less than 1 qt per oil change of usage. Any warranty company is going to laugh at you.

That’s not what I said at all. I said if I checked it and it was at that level, how do I know how much I burned. I didn’t say that was at the end of 5-7k. I was asking in general. Maybe it is at that level after 500 miles. Either way, how do you tell your exact consumption without draining the oil, or can’t you?

 

[Larry48]

If you are not adding oil between oil changes you can use the dipstick as the measuring tool. Mr. P is correct about the holes on the stick. Bottom hole would be 1 qt. Of usage.

 

[Larry48]

If say at 1000 miles since oil change or last top off to full mark the stick is reading at the bottom hole that would be 1 qt. Per 1000 miles of usage.

 

[chovaz]

If say at 1000 miles since oil change or last top off to full mark the stick is reading at the bottom hole that would be 1 qt. Per 1000 miles of usage.

The difference from full to low on the dipstick is only 1qt?

 

[Larry48]

Pretty much all dipsticks for oil on a car measure a quart or quart low. If there is no oil on the stick you have something greater than 1 quart low.

 

[Mayorg]

No vehicle manufacturer is perfect.....however my experience through ownership of two Palisade has been thoroughly enjoyable. 😀🙏

My last vehicle was a 2016 Kia Sorento. 75k miles 25 oil changes. The guy that bought it took it to a mechanic who said buy it. I change ATF every 30K. On my 2025 Palisade. I changed oil at 2000 miles. I always let my oil drain overnight. I get every drop of old oil out. It took 6.5 quarts of oil to get it to the fill line. That shows you how much dirty oil stays in the engine. I live in AZ where the usual speed limite is 45MPH+. I change oil every 3500 miles. Cheap insurance. I use Amsoil on long trips and Mobil 1 around town.

 

[srobak]

25 changes in 75k is beyond excessive (and is every 3000 miles - not 3500), as is ATF changes at 30k (50k is far more reasonable). To go so far as to change oil brands and types depending if you are driving in town or on a trip is equally excessive. This is all wastefully unnecessary and is only adding unnecessary expense without providing any additional insurance.

 

[Mayorg]

25 changes in 75k is beyond excessive (and is every 3000 miles - not 3500), as is ATF changes at 30k (50k is far more reasonable). To go so far as to change oil brands and types depending if you are driving in town or on a trip is equally excessive. This is all wastefully unnecessary and is only adding unnecessary expense without providing any additional insurance.

Well I'm sorry that triggered you but I take care of my cars. An oil change costs me about 27 bucks, I got 13k for that car last May. You take care of your cars your way then.

 

[Mayorg]

In Chicago it was 3000 miles @ twice per year when we lived there.. Out hereI lett it go a bit longer. So you understand.... I changed my oil at 2k for a drive to Chicago this weekend. I will change it before we leave to come back with that oil only have maybe 2500 miles. I will then change it again when we get back in October and it will have about 2k miles. That will be 3 oil changes in 5000 miles. That should send you into orbit. I suggest you change yours every 20 k

 

[srobak]

LOL - don't flatter yourself... I am hardly "triggered" by your oil changes, nor am I going anywhere close to orbit about anything. That kinda thing is reserved for far left whackadoos.

I'm simply calling out unnecessary, wasteful and excessive action on your part - and it is not yielding you anything as a result. But hey - you do you.

For me - during my previous 15 years in Chicagoland with plenty of long trips per year and I did 5k oil changes on all our vehicles - including the Hyundai, Genesis, BMW, Honda and even the Goldwing. When sold all of them had north of 135k (including the Wing) and a couple of them had 180k. No engine/oil related issues on any of them over the course of ownership. Nowadays I do a few hour trip to Chicagoland every couple of months, and plenty of long haul trips elsewhere and otherwise running around town here. No unnecessary variances in oil for highway v. city driving or anything like that. Still 5k intervals. Still works like a charm.

 

[Larry48]

5K oil changes really are the optimal change interval for street driven cars. It provides the best balance of protection, cost, and environmental responsibility.

 

[jeanieatl_2448]

Update- Sorry for the delay..... After 4 or 5 consumption tests, the issue finally produced a error code and a check engine light! CAM #3 was locking up. at 53K miles Hyundai agreed to a full engine replacement. Had the engine swapped out in 3 days and 12K miles later no more issues. Drove back down to Florida and no more oil consumption! It was a long, painfull, frustrating road but Hyundai eventually fixed the issue! Good luck to all experiencing this.

After 4 or 5 consumption tests, I will be over 100,000 miles and warranty void. Just had combustion flushed. Need 700 more miles to complete test, I will be at 97,000 miles then.