I suggest you take a look at Consumer Reports' tire tests and recommendations.

 

https://m.tirerack.com/content/tirerack/mobile/en/homepage.html

You can compare various tires and get reviews from their testing.

 

Thanks guys. After much online search and looking around, looks like the new Michelin Defenders are it. Though the Crossclimate tires seem to be the best rated overall.

Went to a local shop to confirm if my back tires were as worn out. The guy told me the way my tires were worn out I'd need a back alignment for sure. I know I've been skidding some in the rain and I was thinking maybe its due to the car being a FWD. They said they can plug the tire and I can ride with my back tires till mid-Feb. But with the wet weather he recommended changing them asap. I'm gonna get them to plug the tire so I don't ride on the donut and do alignment. Then pull the plug on new tires today or Monday. He said I could keep the tire with like 4 plugs as a backup since apparently it's the best one of the 4.

What I don't get is why the EOM tires I have only lasted 30K miles.

 

Factory tires are not made as well as the ones we purchase at the tire store. I would say you got the average. By the way, I went with the Good Year Assurance Max, a 85 K tread wear tire.

 

How's the ride and handling in wet conditions? I saw they were rated higher on Discount Tire site vs the Defenders. The rep however swore up and down that the Defenders would be my best bet.

 

I found the ride to be softer than the factory tires. The handling is great no issues dry or wet. I have not tried them in the snow. The fuel mileage is unchanged. Keep in mind all tire salespeople are paid a base plus commission. I used to be a tire salesman.

 

Yes, most of the tire places will tell you anything to sell you new tires/services whether you need them or not--worn out, can be patched/plugged, need to replace all four, alignment is off... Just a bunch of crooks. Do your homework and try to find a shop you can trust...

 

Continental CrossContact LX25 seem to offer the best balance between price and performance and would likely be the value leader for a well rounded all season tire.

 

That is a very noisy tire

 

Which one?

 

I was just going by tire rack review as well as customer reviews. According to those reviews it's not supposed to be noisy.

 

I believe the one I recommended Continental CrossContact LX25. Reviews are good on these. They appear to be a well rounded all season tire. Their snow performance is also very good for an all season tire. Tire rack said the same in their testing.

 

Continental is noisy . I have sold many tires and had many complaints about noise on cont tires.

 

Continental is noisy . I have sold many tires and had many complaints about noise on cont tires.

I put the top of the line Continentals on my Camaro with a V8 and it turned out absolutely awesome. It is a whole lot different car than it was with the Goodyear Eagles on there and those Continentals are quiet as can be. It went from riding like a lumber wagon to feeling more like a Mercedes.

 

My choice is cross climate 2

 

Had the Continental CrossContacts on my previous vehicle. Loved them and no change at all in tire noise.

 

You mean the noise is the same as the original tires that you replaced?

 

Tire rack also seems to say the same positive things about this tire. Not everyone needs a 3 peak tire and these will likely also last longer.

 

This tire, perhaps, but what did they say about that tire?

 

I got the Michelin Cross Climate 2. Love them. Good in heavy rain on interstate and light snow.
Great riding tire. Not quite as good on rolling resistance as other tire, but love them over all.

 

Cross climate 2 is better than many winter tires in snow. It's a great tire and slightly winter biased.

 

Are OEM tires on 2020 Palisade SEL with Premium package (Hankook I believe) just a piece of crap? Purchased a car on Wednesday, spent 10 minutes while it was snowing in the Midwest driving, hit the curb and took my entire suspension out (and who knows what else) 4 days later. $6k+ worth of damage. I noticed that as I left my garage that day that ABS kicked in constantly and that it was a much more slippery ride than in Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla, both with Bridgestone tires. Bridgestone tires lasted over 60k on both of our sedans. Our newly purchased 2020 Palisade had only 21k miles on it, can't remember the tire depth (it passed the certified pre-owned inspection guidelines, so I assume over 50% of life was left). I still strongly believe the tires it has are crap. If I remember the manual correctly (the car is at a body shop, so can't look it up) they are probably Hankook. Should I replace the tires once I get it out of a shop?

 

I've always had better luck with Kumho tires when it comes to Korean tires. Hancooks are just noisy crap.

 

Yes replace those terrible tires. They are known to be terrible in the snow.

 

This guy does pretty good testing

 

I ordered replacement tires for my 23 Calligraphy before I took delivery, 4/17/32. Narrowed the choice down to Michellin Cross Climate 2s and Michelin Primacy Tour AS. watched all the tire reviews on the above YouTube channel, read all the tire reviews on the Tire Rack site. The CC2s are remarkable, however they suffer from a 10% reduction in mpg so ordered the Primacy Tours.

 

I installed CC2 on my wife's Volvo XC60 and they are noisy. Not sure how they got such hi rating on noise side. Will never use those again

 

Sorry to hear about your tire issues. In terms of the tire options you mentioned, all three are reputable brands, but it really comes down to personal preference and budget. The Michelin Defender is known for its long tread life and all-season traction, while Pirelli tires are often praised for their performance and handling. Falken tires are also a good option, known for providing a smooth and comfortable ride.

Do you have a preference for any particular brand based on past experiences? Have you looked into the specific models of the tires within each brand to see if any of them have features that might align better with your driving needs?

 

@GurlRDX I just wanted to follow up on this thread and see if you made a decision regarding your tire replacement. It's always helpful to hear how things worked out and what aspects influenced your choice! Did you end up going with the Michelin Defenders, or did one of the other brands catch your eye? Also, how has the performance been since making the switch? I'm in the market for new tires soon and would love to gather some more insights. Thanks!

 

Hi. I did all sorts of research on replacement tires for my 2023 Calligraphy AWD. Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 and Michelin Defender 2 were almost identical in the reviews on Tire Rack. I checked reviews on Discount Tire, Consumer Reports, and the Palisade Forum and compared their reviews and saw pretty much the same thing. I purchased 4 Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 on Saturday, December 2 from Discount Tire. They rode much worse than the OEM Hankooks. I had road vibration in my seat and the steering wheel. My wife immediately said she did not like them too.

I went back to Discount Tire and had them rebalance all 4 tires. Three were out of balance by 1.5 oz. on each tire. The tech said their machine was out of calibration and I asked them "was it self-calibrating or did you have to do it manually and how often?" He said they do it manually and at the start of the day but the machines can be banged by tires and get messed up. He apologized for this and me having to come back. This is not the first time I have had to go back for a rebalance.

The steering wheel vibration went away but not the seat. You could really feel the road vs the OEM tires. So we went back to Discount Tire and I ordered the Michelin Defender 2. Discount Tire did not charge me on the price differential ($251 for Pirelli vs $278 for Michelin) and after some discussion did not charge me again for the $200 road hazard warranty that I always get (and seem to use a lot in TX). That being said, no extra cost for the higher-priced tires.

They go on the car on 12/6/24 and I will report back on how these ride.

Note: Two separate parties told me that the OEM tires are specially made for a great ride and are not the same as an aftermarket tire of the same make. They tend to last about 30K miles (my Hankooks made it to 34K). I hope the Michelins are as good as the other Michelins I have used in the past.

 

Last year I replaced my OEM tires with Pirelli Scorpion AS tires on my 2021 Limited. (I've since traded my 2021 for a 2024 Calligraphy). Bought them at Discount Tire. Immediately, I noticed a faint vibration in my seat-even on smooth surfaces. I drove them about 400 miles and went back to DIscount Tire. I told them I wasn't satisfied and wanted to exchange them for Michelin Defender 2s. They couldn't find any balance issues on the Pirelli tires but gladly replaced them with the Michelins, I think I paid the price difference. The Michelins were excellent. I had used the same type on a previous Honda Pilot and was very satisfied.
Don't know why the Pirellis didn't feel right. Others have been very satisfied. This experience reaffirmed my preference for Michelin Tires and Discount Tire.

 

Update 12-8-24. I had Discount Tire install the Michelin Defender 2 and what a difference in ride! No vibration through the seat or steering wheel at all. I did make sure the kid that did the balancing had verified that the machine was calibrated and I was there at 9:30 too. We had a really hard rain storm on 12-7 and the car ran great. Standing water was not really an issue on the expressway and TX does a terrible job of drainage. So far very happy with the tires.

I do agree that Discount Tire has slipped in their work performance. Last summer I took my daughter's MB C300 in for regular balance and rotation and they put the front tires on the rear and rears on the front! These are staggered tires so you only can rotate left to right.

I think they work so fast that they do not take the time for the details to read the paperwork. The tickey clearly showed the two different tire sizes. Same for the calibration process. This is a fault of the store management. When I asked them how often they calibrate the balances they said in the morning. Perhaps they need to do it after lunch too. I wonder how many tire complaints are really due to poor balancing/poor workmanship. I have been a customer since 2007 and I have had to take tires back for rebalance but not to this degree.

Hope you all have a great holiday and a wonderful 2025.

 

One of my tires have had too many nail plugs and I need a new one. Got a 2nd opinion as I felt like Discount Tires was pushing a replacement and it was confirmed the tire can't be patched.

I have a choice of the 3 tires above. I was told my two back tires are at the point where they start recommending replacement. The front one still has some good life. I could replace just the one tire but I know it might lead to alignment issues down the line. Looks like I may have to pull the plug on all 4.

My driving is mostly highway and some city. I'm looking for more comfort driving and especially good performance in the rain. I have a FWD Calligraphy that tends to slide sometimes in the rain. I'm not yielding and good comparisons on my search. Hoping someone has an opinion/preference.

If you get snow whre you live get the Michelin Cross Climate 2 they are greta tires.

 

I run all weather Nokian WR G4 on my FWD car. The Cross Climate 2 is a great tire just pricey. Nokian WR G4 for SUV actually outperforms the CC2 in snow/ice. The Michelin is just better all the other 3 seasons and more all season balanced.

 

Got mine at Costco for under $900 on four tires. This included $100 off on purchase of four tires, lifetime Helium, rotation and balance every 7500 miles