[filb23]

Just getting ready for the first oil change of my new Palisade. It's at 500+ miles right now, and plan to change the oil at ~1000 miles. I will be using Quaker State 5w-30 and Fram Ultra.

For those curious, below is a pic of the OEM and Fram Ultra side by side. I have been using Fram Ultra for about 12-14 years on my other cars. Honda Odyssey is using it for 13 years. Sonata had been using it for 10 years, which unfortunately got totaled in an accident.

Also for the Palisade, the Fram ultra comes with silicon o-ring vs the nitrile rubber with OEM. It has solid plastic endcaps vs the OEM fiber(not paper) endcaps

 

[TheBullShow]

Nice comparison. Thanks!

 

[Vertrkr]

You're using a top of line filter but with Quaker State? I'd think you'd match it with a top of the line oil like Mobil EP or Pennzoil Ultra. Just an observation.

I've been using the Fram Ultra for years too, seems to be one of the best media and construction. I recall on Bobistheoilguy they had some problems with the cartridge type early on but seems to be all good now.

 

[Zeik]

The regular Fram has been getting lots of bad rep. Good to know, will try Fram Ultra next time. Thank you.
But I have a whole case of like 15 OEM filters to burn through first.

I run with Pennzoil Ultra and magnetic drain bolt. Did notice more metallic grime on the magnet than my other cars. Likely due to the filter.

 

[don67]

The Fram XG filters are excellent, but hard to find for the Palisade in Canada. Only the CH series is readily available.

I wouldn't mind switching to the more durable synthetic media, to extend filter swaps to once a year instead of twice. The paper ones get pretty soggy.

 

[filb23]

You're using a top of line filter but with Quaker State? I'd think you'd match it with a top of the line oil like Mobil EP or Pennzoil Ultra. Just an observation.

I've been using the Fram Ultra for years too, seems to be one of the best media and construction. I recall on Bobistheoilguy they had some problems with the cartridge type early on but seems to be all good now.

Why do you think Quaker State Full Synthetic isn't top of the line? QS is a very underrated oil, it doesn't get the same marketing compared to its sister Pennzoil (both are Shell products). Head over to BITOG and you would see QS virgin oil analysis. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/quaker-state-full-synthetic-5w30.354314/
That's just for the latest SP/Dexos1 Gen3 stuff. There are more posts there for the older specs than you would care to read.

There is no need for Mobil1 EP when my average oil change interval is just a bit over 4000 miles.
As for Pennzoil Ultra. Not a fan. I have used Pennzoil Platinum for and Quaker State Full Syn for years, and I never had an issue. I bought 2 jugs of Pennzoil Ultra once, since it was on sale, expecting it will be better than the Platinum. Well, guess what.... My car started consuming oil. Went back to Platinum, no oil consumption. I don't know why.. Did I get a bad batch, maybe. All I can say is that's my experience with Pennzoil Ultra.

That said, I do my due diligence. I always send my used oil to Blackstone for analysis, at least for the first 2 years of the car. That's about 4-5 oil changes. This to confirm that everything is running okay, no issues. Then I stick with it...

For the Filter. I would gladly use OEM filter for my oil change interval. However, price is like $17 from the dealer. I can buy from online/ebay, it will be around $11 each. But then there's the uncertainty if you're getting genuine OEM or a knock-off. Why take the risk for $11, when I can get a very good, top of the line aftermarket Fram Ultra for $10.97 at Walmart.

Anyways, hopefully that clears things up why I chose the above.

 

[filb23]

The Fram XG filters are excellent, but hard to find for the Palisade in Canada. Only the CH series is readily available.

I wouldn't mind switching to the more durable synthetic media, to extend filter swaps to once a year instead of twice. The paper ones get pretty soggy.

True. The only place I can find it is Walmart. Even Amazon doesn't have it yet.
Autozone, Advance Auto, Pepboys doesn't have it.

 

[aussiekeeper]

I wouldn't use a Fram to wipe my !$$. I use Wix and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30.

 

[filb23]

I wouldn't use a Fram to wipe my !$$. I use Wix and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30.

I wouldn't either. I wouldn't use WIX either. Or any oil filter for that matter. For $10 you can buy a lot of toilet paper.

I'm sure WIX is good filter based on what I heard/read. But Fram posts their filtration efficiency at 99% at 20 microns (Ultra Synthetic). I couldn't find WIX filration efficiency on their website. Why don't they post it there?

Pennzoil Ultra, well, you've seen my notes on it, my experience on it.

Bottom line, you do what you're comfortable with. If you like using WIX and Pennzoil Ultra on your !$$, that's fine.... to each his own.

 

[don67]

I wouldn't use a Fram to wipe my !$$. I use Wix and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30.

I use Charmin Ultra Strong.

 

[Lasvsal]

I wouldn't either. I wouldn't use WIX either. Or any oil filter for that matter. For $10 you can buy a lot of toilet paper.

Sam’s is probably the best deal on @$$ wipes. Member’s Mark, soft, strong, & easy on the wallet.

As for the filter- thanks for the comparison. Looking to pick that up from Walmart.com as well as a bag of M1 FS (@ $0.15 /fl oz., it’s a solid deal) -12qt bag of oil in a box

 

[don67]

FYI it's the low-end orange can "PH" Fram canister filters which get all the hate due to flimsy anti-drainback valves, cardboard ends, etc.

These traits do not apply to the cartride-style Fram CH11934 used in the Palisade. It is well-built. Made in Korea, strong plastic end caps, 10,000 mile service life rating. Very competitive with OEM and WIX. The only room for improvement is the higher-performance, longer-lasting synthetic medium found in the XG series.

That said, use whatever makes your heart flutter

 

[filb23]

FYI it's the low-end orange can "PH" Fram canister filters which get all the hate due to flimsy anti-drainback valves, cardboard ends, etc.

These traits do not apply to the cartride-style Fram CH11934 used in the Palisade. It is well-built. Made in Korea, strong plastic end caps, 10,000 mile service life rating. Very competitive with OEM and WIX. The only room for improvement is the higher-performance, longer-lasting synthetic medium found in the XG series.

That said, use whatever makes your heart flutter

Yep. The orange can is the bad one. I have used it once and Sonata's engine would tick loud in the morning. It would quiet down after some time, but never goes away.

I agree the CH11934 looks very well built. The filter material quality seems on par with OEM. For some reason it is priced more than the XG at Walmart.