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I just purchased a 2022 Palisade Limited FWD. Overall it’s awesome but I’m experiencing a couple of issues and hoping for feedback from the community.

The biggest issue is that LFA seems to have a left bias especially when going into a right bend. It has no problems with left bends and keeps the car centered beautifully. On right bends the car’s left wheels will drive over the speed bumps on the left side of the road. In some cases it will completely drive over the left lane line and give up on lane centering. I took my car to Hyundai service and took one of the techs on a drive to demonstrate the issue, however, they are claiming that although the car sometimes drives on/over the lines, since there is no diagnostic code detected, there is no issue. I asked them to spend some more time testing/observing the behavior, so they can see there is a night & day difference between left and right bends with LFA. Has anyone experienced this? Really hoping something can be done — would be a perfect car if this worked correctly.

The second issue is that when LFA is enabled (with or without HDA, LKA) and I’m in cruise control (smart or regular) if I leave my hands off the wheel, letting LFA steer, I never get a warning to put my hands back on the wheel. I’m pretty sure the car should beep at me after about 30 seconds, but the Hyundai tech says if I’m in cruise control the car will not beep telling me to put my hands on the wheel. Can anyone confirm this? To test, I’ve driven for at least 10 minutes w/o hands on wheel and no warning beep. Seems like I shouldn’t be able to do this…
 

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I just purchased a 2022 Palisade Limited FWD. Overall it’s awesome but I’m experiencing a couple of issues and hoping for feedback from the community.

The biggest issue is that LFA seems to have a left bias especially when going into a right bend. It has no problems with left bends and keeps the car centered beautifully. On right bends the car’s left wheels will drive over the speed bumps on the left side of the road. In some cases it will completely drive over the left lane line and give up on lane centering. I took my car to Hyundai service and took one of the techs on a drive to demonstrate the issue, however, they are claiming that although the car sometimes drives on/over the lines, since there is no diagnostic code detected, there is no issue. I asked them to spend some more time testing/observing the behavior, so they can see there is a night & day difference between left and right bends with LFA. Has anyone experienced this? Really hoping something can be done — would be a perfect car if this worked correctly.

The second issue is that when LFA is enabled (with or without HDA, LKA) and I’m in cruise control (smart or regular) if I leave my hands off the wheel, letting LFA steer, I never get a warning to put my hands back on the wheel. I’m pretty sure the car should beep at me after about 30 seconds, but the Hyundai tech says if I’m in cruise control the car will not beep telling me to put my hands on the wheel. Can anyone confirm this? To test, I’ve driven for at least 10 minutes w/o hands on wheel and no warning beep. Seems like I shouldn’t be able to do this…
My 2021 Calligraphy screams at me if I leave my hands off the wheel. From the manual in LFA Operation section: " If the driver takes their hands off the steering wheel for several seconds while the LFA system is activated, the system will warn the driver. If the driver still does not have their hands on the steering wheel after the message "Keep hands on steering wheel", the system will not control the steering wheel and warn the driver only when the driver crosses the lane markers. However, if the driver has their hands on the steering wheel again, the system will start controlling the steering wheel. "
 

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Also from manual regarding Highway Driving Assist (HDA): "If the driver still does not have their hands on the steering wheel after the message "Keep hands on steering wheel", the HDA system will be canceled."
 

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I have a 2022 Limited AWD and just experienced the same thing. Had a long road trip last week and on stretches of interstate in middle of nowhere, I was able to take my hands off steering wheel for several long stretches of time (15-20 minutes) while using smart cruise control (I never tried it without SCC). I never received a warning.

We previously had a 2021 limited FWD and I did get the warning on that vehicle quickly upon taking hands off the wheel. We upgraded to the 2022 earlier this year and I am not sure if I have ever received the warning on the 2022 model.

I checked the owner's manual for both the 2021 and the 2022 model and both have similar warning messages about no hands warnings on LFA and HDA.

I can assure everyone that my hands were close to the wheel and that my attention was fully on the road. I would grab the wheel when other cars were around, but I had a lot of stretches where no other cars were close to me.

But from what I can tell from the manual, this should not happen. It should provide a warning. On the other hand, it was a pretty relaxed ride.....
 

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I don't get warnings either.. at least not within the time I tested. Scary! I can see someone having a heart attack and the car will faithfully follow the car ahead.. till it runs out of gas.
 

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Could be a defective touch sensor on the steering wheel? To the best of my knowledge, this is not a feature that can be turned off.
On my 2021 Calli, as long as I hook my finger on the bottom of the wheel, the warning stays off. Appears to be very sensitive to any contact.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. The Hyundai tech kept my car for a bit longer and did some additional driving tests. They continue to say the car's LFA is behaving normally since LFA does work correctly on some right bend turns, however, the tech did witness that the left front wheel hit the small speed bumps on the left side of the road and drove over the line on one occasion. This happens more than I'd like.

Regarding the hand-off-the-wheel warnings, the tech said they were able to get the warning after four minutes. Four minutes seems way too long -- the manual (thanks SWBeede) seems to imply that leaving hands off the wheel for "several seconds" should trigger a warning (not "several minutes"). I did however see caveats in the manual that the alarm may be delayed due to road conditions.

I plan to keep testing the right bend LFA behavior and possibly return to Hyundai service. I've also asked to drive another 2022 Limited to compare behavior. They may be more willing to dig deeper if it's demonstrable my car is not behaving the same as another. It doesn't sound like Hyundai has an easy way to adjust/recalibrate the LFA.
 

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Not sure why anyone would trust the LFA to drive for them. This feature is only asking for an accident to happen. At best.. the only good thing about it is an audible warning if you stray
 

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Not sure why anyone would trust the LFA to drive for them. This feature is only asking for an accident to happen. At best.. the only good thing about it is an audible warning if you stray
First thing I noted was the last letter in the feature, assist, it is not designed for total control
 

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First thing I noted was the last letter in the feature, assist, it is not designed for total control
Sadly there will be those that do while texting.. reading.. putting on makeup.. shaving.. putting on (or off) clothes. I keep my fingers crossed that I won't meet them.
 
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