My 2021 Calligraphy screams at me if I leave my hands off the wheel. From the manual in LFA Operation section: " If the driver takes their hands off the steering wheel for several seconds while the LFA system is activated, the system will warn the driver. If the driver still does not have their hands on the steering wheel after the message "Keep hands on steering wheel", the system will not control the steering wheel and warn the driver only when the driver crosses the lane markers. However, if the driver has their hands on the steering wheel again, the system will start controlling the steering wheel. "
Lane Follow Assist
I just purchased a 2022 Palisade Limited FWD. Overall it’s awesome but I’m experiencing a couple of issues and hoping for feedback from the community.
The biggest issue is that LFA seems to have a left bias especially when going into a right bend. It has no problems with left bends and keeps the car centered beautifully. On right bends the car’s left wheels will drive over the speed bumps on the left side of the road. In some cases it will completely drive over the left lane line and give up on lane centering. I took my car to Hyundai service and took one of the techs on a drive to demonstrate the issue, however, they are claiming that although the car sometimes drives on/over the lines, since there is no diagnostic code detected, there is no issue. I asked them to spend some more time testing/observing the behavior, so they can see there is a night & day difference between left and right bends with LFA. Has anyone experienced this? Really hoping something can be done — would be a perfect car if this worked correctly.
The second issue is that when LFA is enabled (with or without HDA, LKA) and I’m in cruise control (smart or regular) if I leave my hands off the wheel, letting LFA steer, I never get a warning to put my hands back on the wheel. I’m pretty sure the car should beep at me after about 30 seconds, but the Hyundai tech says if I’m in cruise control the car will not beep telling me to put my hands on the wheel. Can anyone confirm this? To test, I’ve driven for at least 10 minutes w/o hands on wheel and no warning beep. Seems like I shouldn’t be able to do this…
The biggest issue is that LFA seems to have a left bias especially when going into a right bend. It has no problems with left bends and keeps the car centered beautifully. On right bends the car’s left wheels will drive over the speed bumps on the left side of the road. In some cases it will completely drive over the left lane line and give up on lane centering. I took my car to Hyundai service and took one of the techs on a drive to demonstrate the issue, however, they are claiming that although the car sometimes drives on/over the lines, since there is no diagnostic code detected, there is no issue. I asked them to spend some more time testing/observing the behavior, so they can see there is a night & day difference between left and right bends with LFA. Has anyone experienced this? Really hoping something can be done — would be a perfect car if this worked correctly.
The second issue is that when LFA is enabled (with or without HDA, LKA) and I’m in cruise control (smart or regular) if I leave my hands off the wheel, letting LFA steer, I never get a warning to put my hands back on the wheel. I’m pretty sure the car should beep at me after about 30 seconds, but the Hyundai tech says if I’m in cruise control the car will not beep telling me to put my hands on the wheel. Can anyone confirm this? To test, I’ve driven for at least 10 minutes w/o hands on wheel and no warning beep. Seems like I shouldn’t be able to do this…
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Also from manual regarding Highway Driving Assist (HDA): "If the driver still does not have their hands on the steering wheel after the message "Keep hands on steering wheel", the HDA system will be canceled."
I have a 2022 Limited AWD and just experienced the same thing. Had a long road trip last week and on stretches of interstate in middle of nowhere, I was able to take my hands off steering wheel for several long stretches of time (15-20 minutes) while using smart cruise control (I never tried it without SCC). I never received a warning.
We previously had a 2021 limited FWD and I did get the warning on that vehicle quickly upon taking hands off the wheel. We upgraded to the 2022 earlier this year and I am not sure if I have ever received the warning on the 2022 model.
I checked the owner's manual for both the 2021 and the 2022 model and both have similar warning messages about no hands warnings on LFA and HDA.
I can assure everyone that my hands were close to the wheel and that my attention was fully on the road. I would grab the wheel when other cars were around, but I had a lot of stretches where no other cars were close to me.
But from what I can tell from the manual, this should not happen. It should provide a warning. On the other hand, it was a pretty relaxed ride.....
We previously had a 2021 limited FWD and I did get the warning on that vehicle quickly upon taking hands off the wheel. We upgraded to the 2022 earlier this year and I am not sure if I have ever received the warning on the 2022 model.
I checked the owner's manual for both the 2021 and the 2022 model and both have similar warning messages about no hands warnings on LFA and HDA.
I can assure everyone that my hands were close to the wheel and that my attention was fully on the road. I would grab the wheel when other cars were around, but I had a lot of stretches where no other cars were close to me.
But from what I can tell from the manual, this should not happen. It should provide a warning. On the other hand, it was a pretty relaxed ride.....
I don't get warnings either.. at least not within the time I tested. Scary! I can see someone having a heart attack and the car will faithfully follow the car ahead.. till it runs out of gas.
Could be a defective touch sensor on the steering wheel? To the best of my knowledge, this is not a feature that can be turned off.
On my 2021 Calli, as long as I hook my finger on the bottom of the wheel, the warning stays off. Appears to be very sensitive to any contact.
On my 2021 Calli, as long as I hook my finger on the bottom of the wheel, the warning stays off. Appears to be very sensitive to any contact.
See past post on this issue. Appears that LFA looks for resistance to steering movement. Hand detection on steering wheel | Hyundai Palisade Forum
Thanks for the feedback. The Hyundai tech kept my car for a bit longer and did some additional driving tests. They continue to say the car's LFA is behaving normally since LFA does work correctly on some right bend turns, however, the tech did witness that the left front wheel hit the small speed bumps on the left side of the road and drove over the line on one occasion. This happens more than I'd like.
Regarding the hand-off-the-wheel warnings, the tech said they were able to get the warning after four minutes. Four minutes seems way too long -- the manual (thanks SWBeede) seems to imply that leaving hands off the wheel for "several seconds" should trigger a warning (not "several minutes"). I did however see caveats in the manual that the alarm may be delayed due to road conditions.
I plan to keep testing the right bend LFA behavior and possibly return to Hyundai service. I've also asked to drive another 2022 Limited to compare behavior. They may be more willing to dig deeper if it's demonstrable my car is not behaving the same as another. It doesn't sound like Hyundai has an easy way to adjust/recalibrate the LFA.
Regarding the hand-off-the-wheel warnings, the tech said they were able to get the warning after four minutes. Four minutes seems way too long -- the manual (thanks SWBeede) seems to imply that leaving hands off the wheel for "several seconds" should trigger a warning (not "several minutes"). I did however see caveats in the manual that the alarm may be delayed due to road conditions.
I plan to keep testing the right bend LFA behavior and possibly return to Hyundai service. I've also asked to drive another 2022 Limited to compare behavior. They may be more willing to dig deeper if it's demonstrable my car is not behaving the same as another. It doesn't sound like Hyundai has an easy way to adjust/recalibrate the LFA.
Not sure why anyone would trust the LFA to drive for them. This feature is only asking for an accident to happen. At best.. the only good thing about it is an audible warning if you stray
The HDA with LFA does help reduce fatigue on long highway drives but I still keep my hands on the wheel.
First thing I noted was the last letter in the feature, assist, it is not designed for total controlNot sure why anyone would trust the LFA to drive for them. This feature is only asking for an accident to happen. At best.. the only good thing about it is an audible warning if you stray
Yeah I don't know why there needs to be a warning about keeping your hands on the wheel, this should be common sense.
Hard to text on your phone while holding the wheel. /SYeah I don't know why there needs to be a warning about keeping your hands on the wheel, this should be common sense.
Sadly there will be those that do while texting.. reading.. putting on makeup.. shaving.. putting on (or off) clothes. I keep my fingers crossed that I won't meet them.First thing I noted was the last letter in the feature, assist, it is not designed for total control
we just bought a new SEL AWD 2023 model. It has 205 miles on it. when I go into a left or right curve, it tends to pull gently in the direction of the curve. It is fine on straight roads. Does this have anything to do with the lane departure feature? If there is a feature I can turn off to fix this, please let me know.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Yup.. that the car driving itself. On my 2022 it only comes on while on cruise, not sure if there is a setting to turn it off, guessing there is somewhere deep in the bowels of the setup program.we just bought a new SEL AWD 2023 model. It has 205 miles on it. when I go into a left or right curve, it tends to pull gently in the direction of the curve. It is fine on straight roads. Does this have anything to do with the lane departure feature? If there is a feature I can turn off to fix this, please let me know.
Thanks!
I had a similar issue on my 2020 Palisade (and AFAIK they use the same sensor suite). I also had a similar conversation with a tech at the dealership and demonstrated the steering bias to him. In my case, I was able to show him on a highway with a gentle left curve and the Palisade started to veer into the left shoulder). After we got back I specifically asked that they recalibrate the lane centering. Hyundai has a specific process for this, but it takes a couple of hours and I think the techs are reluctant to do it unless the camera or radar is being replaced. The tech said that since there was no error code he didn't think the recalibration would do any good and that I would probably have to pay out-of-pocket.Thanks for the feedback. The Hyundai tech kept my car for a bit longer and did some additional driving tests. They continue to say the car's LFA is behaving normally since LFA does work correctly on some right bend turns, however, the tech did witness that the left front wheel hit the small speed bumps on the left side of the road and drove over the line on one occasion. This happens more than I'd like.
Regarding the hand-off-the-wheel warnings, the tech said they were able to get the warning after four minutes. Four minutes seems way too long -- the manual (thanks SWBeede) seems to imply that leaving hands off the wheel for "several seconds" should trigger a warning (not "several minutes"). I did however see caveats in the manual that the alarm may be delayed due to road conditions.
I plan to keep testing the right bend LFA behavior and possibly return to Hyundai service. I've also asked to drive another 2022 Limited to compare behavior. They may be more willing to dig deeper if it's demonstrable my car is not behaving the same as another. It doesn't sound like Hyundai has an easy way to adjust/recalibrate the LFA.
I went ahead, and the recalibration helped a ton. After he finished we went back to the same highway and the issue was mostly gone (although there is still a slight left bias). I spoke with the manager about the before-and-after differences and they were able to successfully charge it as an in-warranty repair.
I have notice a small (insignificant?) bais that depends on the camber of the road. On a two lane road, driving in the left lane it tracks slightly closer to the left curb (left of center) while in the right lane it's pretty well on center.I had a similar issue on my 2020 Palisade (and AFAIK they use the same sensor suite). I also had a similar conversation with a tech at the dealership and demonstrated the steering bias to him. In my case, I was able to show him on a highway with a gentle left curve and the Palisade started to veer into the left shoulder). After we got back I specifically asked that they recalibrate the lane centering. Hyundai has a specific process for this, but it takes a couple of hours and I think the techs are reluctant to do it unless the camera or radar is being replaced. The tech said that since there was no error code he didn't think the recalibration would do any good and that I would probably have to pay out-of-pocket.
I went ahead, and the recalibration helped a ton. After he finished we went back to the same highway and the issue was mostly gone (although there is still a slight left bias). I spoke with the manager about the before-and-after differences and they were able to successfully charge it as an in-warranty repair.
Just a note that Safelite recalibrated my camera after they replaced my windshield. That's why they cannot do windshield replacements in the field. I have to have them done at their facility.
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