2023 Palisade tow hitch harness

tkmitchell said:

But it is not the same issue. The recall was not for the pre-wiring. It was for the harness they sold that had a plug on one end for the pre-wiring and a plug on the other end for the trailer to connect to. Is there a new recall? I believe that additional cars were added to the original recall. And the 23 already has totally different pre-wiring than a 22. It is not the same. The 22 had 7 wires run into the plug behind the driver rear wheel. It was wired like most things have been for years. 7 wires. Separate wires for turn signals, brake lights, reverse lights, ground, 12V, electric brake power. Up under the dash was a plug with 4 wires for your controller to plug into. It has power,ground,brake notification, power to electric brakes. The power to brakes wire is the same one that is in the plug in the rear. That plug was behind a plastic cover behind rear driver wheel. Note that in addition to the Hyundai harness, which was only 4wire even though plug supported 7, Curt made a harness that plugged in also. It had a 7pin plug. The Curt harness never caught fire. Never had a problem. The problem was a small module in the Hyundai harness. It was not sealed properly. Moisture could get in. Short out since it always had 12v power. In the recall they said pull fuses because that was the easiest sure way to prevent the problem. No power to rear plug, no short possible. They could have also just said remove the harness, but that is more work.

The 23 has the same plug under the dash. I know, I plugged my brake controller into it. But in the rear the plug was moved inside the vehicle. In addition the plug does not have 7 wires. It has wires for the CAN bus. The new harness (was bought from Canada, factory Hyundai part) plugs into the new plug. In addition it has a much larger module. Probably due to the fact that it is now a computer communicating on the CAN bus to find out when turn signals and lights are on. Coming out of that module is a wire bundle that goes to a 7 pin plug. In addition to the new plug there are also plugs with fuses that carry the 12V and electric brake power. Different system all together. WIre bundle from front of car is different. Different plug carrying different signals. The pre-wiring is not the same. It has been changed for 23. That is why a hitch harness from a 22 cannot be used on a 23. But the pre-wiring is there. Just requires a new hitch harness. Myself and others have plugged the factory harness from CA up and it works fine.

As to why it is taking them so long I don't understand. Part has been available in CA and Austrailia for awhile. I cannot imagine they are building another part just for the US. Possibly having to certify that the new design fixes the problem that existed in the older models is an issue. The pre-wiring was redesigned.

I cannot find where the 2023 Palisade was added to the recall. Other models where. Which I assume is because they used the same hitch harness as the 22 Palisade.

And the new hitch harness that works with the 23 will not work with the 22, so it is not a fix for that recall.

Hyundai seems to have botched something. The "new" hitch is probably what they already sell for the Telluride. People have bought it and installed it. Maybe they are working on the replacment cover peice that has cutouts for the receiver and plug.

The lack of information from Hyundai is ridiculous. And the dealers don't seem to be helping matters.

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tkmitchell said:

But it is not the same issue. The recall was not for the pre-wiring. It was for the harness they sold that had a plug on one end for the pre-wiring and a plug on the other end for the trailer to connect to. Is there a new recall? I believe that additional cars were added to the original recall. And the 23 already has totally different pre-wiring than a 22. It is not the same. The 22 had 7 wires run into the plug behind the driver rear wheel. It was wired like most things have been for years. 7 wires. Separate wires for turn signals, brake lights, reverse lights, ground, 12V, electric brake power. Up under the dash was a plug with 4 wires for your controller to plug into. It has power,ground,brake notification, power to electric brakes. The power to brakes wire is the same one that is in the plug in the rear. That plug was behind a plastic cover behind rear driver wheel. Note that in addition to the Hyundai harness, which was only 4wire even though plug supported 7, Curt made a harness that plugged in also. It had a 7pin plug. The Curt harness never caught fire. Never had a problem. The problem was a small module in the Hyundai harness. It was not sealed properly. Moisture could get in. Short out since it always had 12v power. In the recall they said pull fuses because that was the easiest sure way to prevent the problem. No power to rear plug, no short possible. They could have also just said remove the harness, but that is more work.

The 23 has the same plug under the dash. I know, I plugged my brake controller into it. But in the rear the plug was moved inside the vehicle. In addition the plug does not have 7 wires. It has wires for the CAN bus. The new harness (was bought from Canada, factory Hyundai part) plugs into the new plug. In addition it has a much larger module. Probably due to the fact that it is now a computer communicating on the CAN bus to find out when turn signals and lights are on. Coming out of that module is a wire bundle that goes to a 7 pin plug. In addition to the new plug there are also plugs with fuses that carry the 12V and electric brake power. Different system all together. WIre bundle from front of car is different. Different plug carrying different signals. The pre-wiring is not the same. It has been changed for 23. That is why a hitch harness from a 22 cannot be used on a 23. But the pre-wiring is there. Just requires a new hitch harness. Myself and others have plugged the factory harness from CA up and it works fine.

As to why it is taking them so long I don't understand. Part has been available in CA and Austrailia for awhile. I cannot imagine they are building another part just for the US. Possibly having to certify that the new design fixes the problem that existed in the older models is an issue. The pre-wiring was redesigned.

I cannot find where the 2023 Palisade was added to the recall. Other models where. Which I assume is because they used the same hitch harness as the 22 Palisade.

And the new hitch harness that works with the 23 will not work with the 22, so it is not a fix for that recall.

Hyundai seems to have botched something. The "new" hitch is probably what they already sell for the Telluride. People have bought it and installed it. Maybe they are working on the replacment cover peice that has cutouts for the receiver and plug.

The lack of information from Hyundai is ridiculous. And the dealers don't seem to be helping matters.

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Mr. P said:

tkmitchell - you can't explain this to some people as they think THEIR service tech is the God of service techs even when they are wrong. If they would just read the recall it explains everything involved but some just want to run around yelling "the sky is falling."

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bgredd said:

Done with you. Can read just fine - just don't believe everything I read when other info does not align. Good luck to you. Betting I'm correct. Your betting I'm not.

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Mr. P said:

You don't believe everything you read? Even when it comes directly from the manufacturer, you know, the ones who designed and built the vehicles? Hyundai has put out a notice describing the issue and actions to take. They have also sent letters to the owners of the vehicles affected. The NHTSA has also sent notices about the defect and actions taken but you don't want to believe them, you want to believe the guy who changes your oil. We have been discussing this for the past 9 months with 100's of posts, with posts of the recall and notices sent to owners. You pop in here a week ago and state the guy who changes your oil told you that the Palisade will need extensive re-wiring. GTFOH.

• Fact, owners in Canada already have a new harness that is approved by Hyundai, they have not had to re-wire their vehicle.
• Fact, the recall is only for the 4 pin add on harness for both Hyundai and KIA. If the vehicles need to be extensively re-wired then why is the KIA 7 pin add on harness not affected and still in use?
• Fact, aftermarket harnesses purchased through U-Haul, E-Trailer and other retailers work just fine without any extensive re-wiring of the vehicle.

Recall affected part until Hyundai puts out something new.
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bgredd said:

Done with you. Can read just fine - just don't believe everything I read when other info does not align. Good luck to you. Betting I'm correct. Your betting I'm not.

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Captain Salty said:

Just got off the phone (4/18/23) with Hyundai Parts Pro and was told that the current update is a another 4-6 weeks. I can't believe it. If. If they have a fix that starts mid may are the dealers getting the parts first?

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LeRoy S. said:

If the dealers are getting the parts first then I need to see a letter PRETTY DAMN SOON. I am at my witts end trying to figure out what to do get my trailering set-up for my camper for this summer. This "4 more weeks" and then another 4 weeks.,...when will it actually come in??

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john123 said:

just go buy this and swap them out.

Custom 7-Way RV Blade, Select Palisade, Santa Cruz, Telluride, Need Tow Package

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Alexey said:

Hello, ive got Palisade 22/23 from Korea, and i have this connector:

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Wires side:
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Is it for tow hitch? Want test it with tester, but unshure can i take +12 from this, is this wires are ok for 35amps (connected together)?

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Nolenski said:

ALL Palisades are made in Korea. What is a 22/23 Palisade? Pick one.

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Alexey said:

Checked this topic 2023 trailer hitch , disasembled tray, and i have no wires for hitch, also checked fuse box, and there no + pin on trailer slot. My verdict that my new Calligraphy Palisade from Korea does not have wires, if it not come with hitch from factory. But i found that there is good wires for third row, i will use they for main "+" through the fuse.

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